Building Community and Child Safety: Charlene Freestone's Journey
Charlene Freestone reflects on the proactive creation of community in Lehi and her evolution from a lonely new resident to a guardian of child safety.
Charlene Freestone
Multifaceted Member of Lehi Community
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Introduction
Charlene Freestone’s story is a testament to the idea that community is not something found, but something forged. Arriving in Lehi in 2009 amidst the uncertainty of a global recession, Charlene captures a specific moment in the city’s timeline—a transition from a quiet town to a bustling suburban hub where new residents had to intentionally plant their own roots. Her narrative reveals the interior life of a young mother navigating isolation, only to transform that vulnerability into a network of support for hundreds of other families.
Her journey through the 'Natural Parenting Boutique' located in the historic Lehi Hotel offers a glimpse into the local entrepreneurial spirit. By choosing a space near the train tracks where life and commerce intersected, she anchored her business in the town's physical history. This chapter of her life highlights the shift from traditional retail to community-centered education, where the goal was not just to sell a product, but to empower parents with the knowledge to navigate the complexities of early childhood.
The 2020 pandemic and the concurrent Utah earthquake serve as a pivot point in Charlene’s history, marking the end of one era and the beginning of her specialized service at the Primary Children’s Hospital Miller Campus. Her transition from boutique owner to Child Passenger Safety Technician (CPST) illustrates a deeper commitment to the survival and well-being of Lehi’s youngest citizens. She describes the intricate, often invisible work of ensuring that children with complex medical needs—those in hip spica casts or with spinal conditions—can move safely through the world.
Charlene’s philosophy of 'safer than they arrived' serves as a metaphor for her entire contribution to Lehi. Whether through baby-wearing groups or her current role at the hospital, her legacy is one of incremental improvement and radical empathy. She challenges the notion of the 'perfect parent,' replacing it with the 'empowered parent' who is humble enough to ask for help and diligent enough to provide safety.
Ultimately, this record preserves the voice of a woman who saw a gap in the social fabric of her adopted home and chose to weave her own threads into it. Her story is a map of how Lehi has grown—not just in population, but in the specialized care and interconnectedness required to sustain a modern community. It is a reminder that the safety of a child and the strength of a neighborhood are built one interaction and one 'car seat check' at a time.
Episode Overview
A detailed look at the topics, people, and context of this conversation.
This conversation features Charlene Freestone, a multifaceted resident of Lehi whose life's work has centered on the intersections of community building, entrepreneurship, and specialized medical safety. Charlene recounts her move to Utah in 2009, her early days as a community organizer for local mothers, and her eventual role as a Child Passenger Safety Technician at the Larry H. Miller and Gail Miller Family Campus of Primary Children’s Hospital in Lehi.
Key themes include the proactive 'making' of community in the face of isolation, the evolution of motherhood, and the technical realities of child safety. Charlene discusses her past business ventures on Lehi Main Street, the impact of the 2020 pandemic on local commerce, and her current dedication to assisting families with special medical transportation needs. The discussion provides a rare look into the specialized world of CPSTs and the vital role they play in the hospital discharge process.
The episode captures the emotional journey of a mother who once needed the very services she now provides, creating a full-circle narrative of service and gratitude. It serves as an informative guide for parents while documenting the growth of medical infrastructure in Northern Utah County through the lens of a passionate advocate.
Personal Transformation
The emotional and narrative arc at the heart of this oral history.
Charlene Freestone's narrative begins with the frustration of a college graduate entering the workforce during the Great Recession of 2009. Having studied business management with a focus on adult education and corporate training, she found herself in a landscape where opportunities had dissolved. This initial setback forced a shift from following a prescribed career path to a survival-based approach, eventually landing her in Lehi where she felt the acute sting of isolation that often accompanies new motherhood in a rapidly growing suburban area. The pivot point in her life was a stern piece of advice from her mother: community does not find you; you must build it. This realization transformed Charlene from a passive observer of her circumstances into an active architect of her social environment. She moved from feeling lonely in an apartment to creating a mom's playgroup, which then evolved into a formal nonprofit chapter for baby-wearing and eventually a brick-and-mortar business on Lehi Main Street. Her identity shifted from a 'corporate businesswoman in waiting' to a community leader and educator who recognized that her skills in management could be applied to the grassroots needs of families. The most significant transformation occurred during the dual crises of 2020: the COVID-19 pandemic and the Utah earthquake. These events forced her to abandon her boutique business, a move that could have been viewed as a failure but was instead a moment of profound clarity. She recognized the shifting reality of retail and pivoted toward education and eventually medical safety. This journey culminated in her securing a 'dream job' at Primary Children’s Hospital, where she now uses her specialized expertise to help children with complex medical needs. She evolved from a woman seeking a place in the community to a woman who provides the very safety net that holds the community together.
Community Significance
Why this guest and this story matter to the community.
Charlene's impact on Lehi is measured in the safety of its most vulnerable residents—its children. By establishing the Natural Parenting Boutique in the historic Lehi Hotel, she revitalized a piece of local history while providing a much-needed hub for education and support during a period of massive population growth. Without her intervention, the niche but vital knowledge of baby-wearing and natural parenting might have remained a scattered, online-only resource rather than a physical space where local bonds were forged. Her transition to a Child Passenger Safety Technician at the new Primary Children’s Hospital Miller Campus represents the evolution of Lehi itself. As the city has transformed from a small town into a significant tech and medical hub, Charlene has provided the human element to this infrastructure. She bridges the gap between high-level medical care and the daily, practical needs of parents navigating the complexities of child safety. Her work ensures that families leaving the hospital with children in hip casts or with complex respiratory needs are not left to struggle alone. Furthermore, her willingness to advocate for 'safer' rather than 'perfect' creates a culture of non-judgmental support in a community that can often feel pressured by high standards of parenting. She has strengthened relationships between parents, healthcare providers, and local safety officials, creating a more integrated support system. Her legacy is found in the hundreds of children she has helped transport safely and the mothers she empowered to find their own voices in a new and unfamiliar town.
"Growing up in a small town I learned that connections go beyond blood they're built through shared experiences friendships and the moments we celebrate together."
— Ryan Hardin · 0:08
Key Themes & Life Lessons
The ideas that run beneath the stories — and what they teach about community, leadership, and belonging.
Intentional Community Building
Adaptability through Economic Crisis
Specialized Child Passenger Safety
The Evolution of Local Entrepreneurship
Healthcare Accessibility in Lehi
The Transition from Retail to Service
Parental Education and Empowerment
Public Health and Safety Advocacy
Wisdom & Life Lessons
True community is a garden you must plant and tend yourself; it does not grow wild in the suburbs. Resilience is not just about standing your ground, but about having the wisdom to move when the ground shifts beneath you, as Charlene did when the 2020 earthquake signaled a change in her retail career. Professional fulfillment can be found in full-circle moments, such as Charlene returning to work for the same hospital system that saved her son exactly twelve years after his discharge. Safety is a journey of 'safer,' not 'perfect,' acknowledging that everyone's circumstances are different and that incremental improvement is more sustainable than unattainable perfection. Lastly, a 'job interview' can happen anywhere—even at a car seat check in a hot parking lot—meaning that your character and competence in a moment of service are your true resume.
Key Takeaways
- 1Community is not something you find; it is something you must intentionally create through outreach and shared interests.
- 2The 2008 recession and the 2020 pandemic served as major pivot points for local professionals, forcing a shift from corporate or retail roles into community-focused service.
- 3Child passenger safety is an ongoing educational process rather than a one-time installation event.
- 4Specialized medical transportation is a critical, often invisible, need for families with children undergoing complex surgeries.
- 5The arrival of Primary Children’s Hospital in Lehi represents the fulfillment of a decade-long community need for localized pediatric specialty care.
- 6Counterfeit safety products on third-party marketplaces like Amazon present a significant and growing danger to local families.
- 7A successful community relies on individuals who bridge the gap between technical expertise (like safety certification) and empathetic human connection.
Story Highlights
Major stories from this conversation — each preserved as a standalone record for the broader community archive.
Charlene Freestone recounts graduating from BYU in 2009 during the height of the economic recession. Despite her background in business management and corporate training, the job market collapsed, forcing her and her husband to settle in Lehi and 'scrape up' whatever limited opportunities existed. This period of scarcity forced her to wait for the right professional fit, eventually leading her toward community-focused work rather than the corporate track she initially envisioned.
Emotional Significance
There is a sense of grounded resilience and the bittersweet reality of abandoned plans leading to unexpected roots.
Why This Matters
It captures the specific struggle of the 2009 graduates who helped build Lehi's modern professional landscape through sheer necessity.
Life Lesson
Opportunities that dissolve during hard times are often replaced by deep-rooted purposes if one is willing to wait and adapt.
Transformation
Charlene moved from a mindset of corporate ambition to one of community adaptation and patience.
What It Reveals About Charlene Freestone
She is pragmatic and capable of finding meaning in circumstances she didn't choose.
What It Reveals About the Community
Lehi became a place of refuge and 'starting over' for young professionals during the recession.
Community Value Preserved
The history of the 2008-2009 recession's local impact on young families.
For future generations: It documents how global economic shifts directly impact the individual trajectories of community members.
After moving to a house in Lehi and having children, Charlene felt isolated and lonely. When she complained to her mother, she received a blunt but life-altering piece of advice: 'You need to make your own community; it's not going to find you.' Taking this to heart, Charlene utilized Facebook to organize mom groups, eventually founding a non-profit chapter for baby-wearing education and a lending library for the community.
Charlene established a formal business, a natural parenting boutique, on Lehi Main Street in the historic Lehi Hotel building. The space was a unique community hub where one could visit a midwife, buy baby gear, and even rent wedding dresses all in the same building. The focus was not just on retail, but on providing a community meeting space for parent education.
In March 2020, on the same day as the Magna earthquake, Charlene had a sudden realization: parents would no longer bring small children into physical stores due to COVID-19. Recognizing her boutique would become a financial liability, she folded her business immediately. This led her to work as a teacher's aid during the pandemic, witnessing the community band together in schools, and eventually finding her path into healthcare.
Charlene shares a deeply personal connection to her current work. In 2011, her son was born with medical needs requiring surgery. Because Primary Children's in Salt Lake was over capacity, he was treated at Utah Valley. Exactly 12 years to the day after her son's discharge from his first car seat test, Charlene started her job with Intermountain as a Child Passenger Safety Technician. She realized she was now the person helping families in the exact situation she once occupied as a fearful mother.
At a child safety checkpoint, Charlene encountered a family with six children in a seven-seater minivan. The family had used 'daisy-chained' belts and even a wooden box to try and secure the children, showing great effort but creating an unsafe situation. Charlene spent over an hour and twenty minutes painstakingly rearranging and installing new seats. Watching her problem-solve and empower the mother, a supervisor who had previously rejected Charlene's job application due to her distance from Salt Lake offered her a position on the spot for the future Lehi location.
Charlene noticed a fellow gym member had incorrectly installed a forward-facing car seat using rear-facing anchors—a mistake that could be fatal in an accident. Instead of 'calling her out,' Charlene approached her with humility, offering to help 'switch stuff around' as a friend. The woman accepted, and then immediately told her other friends how helpful Charlene had been, turning a potentially embarrassing moment into a ripple of community education.
"We always have our Mantra is that safe that they leave safer than they arrived like we we may not be able to do things perfectly we know everyone's circumstance and situation is different but we always want them safer."
— Charlene Freestone · 15:54
Historical Preservation & Legacy
What this interview preserves about community history, cultural legacy, and intergenerational knowledge.
Preservation Value: High
This interview provides a rare combination of personal narrative, local business history, and specialized medical safety knowledge. It documents the impact of major historical events (the 2009 recession, the 2020 pandemic, and the 2020 earthquake) on a single Lehi resident, offering a deeply personal record of community resilience. The specific details regarding the expansion of Primary Children's Hospital and the evolution of Lehi Main Street make it a significant primary source for future historians studying the city's growth and infrastructure.
Why This Episode Matters Historically
This episode serves as a vital record of Lehi’s development during the first two decades of the 21st century, documenting the transition from a post-recession community to a burgeoning medical and tech center. It captures the specific economic pressures of the 2009 recession and the 2020 pandemic through the lens of a local entrepreneur, providing a case study in how global events manifest as personal and professional pivots. Historically, it also preserves the story of the second campus of Primary Children’s Hospital, a landmark development in Utah's medical history. By documenting the role of a Child Passenger Safety Technician, the archive gains insight into the specialized labor and safety standards of the era. This narrative also provides a glimpse into the adaptive reuse of historic spaces, such as the old Lehi Hotel, illustrating how the city's past architecture has housed its evolving community needs.
What Future Generations May Learn
Future residents of Lehi will learn that community is an act of will rather than a byproduct of proximity. Through Charlene's story, they will understand that during times of rapid growth, the social fabric is maintained by individuals who are willing to initiate playgroups, start nonprofits, and share specialized knowledge. They will see a model of resilience that does not involve stubbornly clinging to a failing plan, but rather the wisdom to pivot when the world changes—as seen in Charlene's decision to close her business during the 2020 pandemic. Historians 50 years from now will look back at this as a record of the high value placed on child safety and the collaborative nature of maternal support networks in the early 2000s. They will also gain an understanding of the specific challenges of 21st-century parenting, from the complexity of car seat engineering to the navigation of third-party online marketplaces. This record serves as a testament to the fact that while technology and infrastructure change, the fundamental human need for connection and the protection of the next generation remains constant.
Community Memory Preserved
This archive preserves the memory of the Natural Parenting Boutique and its role as a gathering place on Lehi Main Street, specifically within the old Lehi Hotel. It captures the unique, multi-purpose nature of that historic building, which at various times housed a midwife, a boutique, and even a wedding dress rental shop. The story preserves the origins of the local baby-wearing nonprofit, an organization that emerged from a simple desire for connection and eventually integrated into the public health system through WIC. It also protects the memory of the 'post-recession baby boom' in 2011, which saw local hospitals like Utah Valley and Primary Children’s reaching capacity. These specific details provide a snapshot of a community in the midst of a massive growth spurt. Finally, it preserves the story of the 2020 Utah earthquake, documenting the specific, localized anxiety it caused for small business owners and how it served as a catalyst for professional change.
Local Knowledge Preserved
The episode preserves highly specific local knowledge regarding child passenger safety within the context of Utah’s medical system. It details the specialized protocols for transporting children with hip casts (spica casts) or spinal incisions, knowledge that is often hidden from the general public. It also clarifies the roles of various community figures, noting that while firefighters and police officers are often sought for car seat help, they frequently lack the specialized certification held by hospital technicians. Charlene provides insights into the geography of safety resources, identifying specific health departments in Provo and Lehi that offer free checks. Additionally, she warns about the modern local danger of counterfeit car seats appearing in online marketplaces—a piece of practical knowledge that reflects the specific consumer risks of this decade.
Intergenerational Lessons
The primary lesson for future community builders is that 'Community will not find you; you have to make it.' This is a call to action for anyone feeling isolated in a new environment to take the first step in creating the social structures they need. Entrepreneurs can learn the importance of 'failing fast' and recognizing when a business model is no longer viable due to external shifts like pandemics or economic downturns. For future leaders, Charlene’s story emphasizes that leadership is often about empowering others—in her case, teaching parents how to install their own car seats rather than just doing it for them. Her experience also teaches that the most rewarding careers often come from a series of unplanned pivots where personal passion meets a community need. Finally, the lesson of humility is central: being willing to accept help and correction, whether it's a mother learning she installed a seat incorrectly or a professional realizing they are still 'too far away' for a certain job, is essential for growth.
Community & Cultural Insights
Lehi is portrayed as a city in a state of constant transition, where historic buildings like the Lehi Hotel are repurposed to serve the needs of a modern, young demographic. The community culture is heavily centered on family and child-rearing, with a high level of engagement in parenting education and safety. There is a documented tension between the desire for small-town connection and the reality of rapid suburban growth, which can lead to isolation if not actively countered. The episode reveals a strong culture of volunteerism and the presence of hidden experts within the community who provide essential safety services. It also reflects a high degree of trust in medical institutions like Primary Children’s Hospital, which serves as a cornerstone of the regional identity. The shift from Main Street retail to a tech-and-medical-focused economy is palpable. Additionally, the episode highlights the specific cultural value placed on large families in Lehi, as evidenced by the challenges of fitting six children and five car seats into a single minivan. This reflects a local demographic reality that shapes everything from vehicle choice to public health needs.
Historical Context
The narrative spans a transformative period in Lehi's history, beginning with the aftermath of the 2008 recession. This economic downturn significantly altered the career trajectories of young professionals and BYU graduates like Charlene Freestone, leading them to settle in Lehi for its then-emerging opportunities rather than leaving the state. This era was characterized by 'scraping up limited opportunities,' which eventually birthed a wave of grassroots entrepreneurship on Main Street. Two major events in 2020—the COVID-19 pandemic and the March Utah earthquake—acted as catalysts for a second professional migration. For Lehi, this meant the closure of traditional brick-and-mortar boutiques, such as the Natural Parenting Boutique, and a shift toward essential services. The opening of the Primary Children's Hospital Larry H. Miller and Gail Miller Family Campus in Lehi marks a pivotal moment in the city's infrastructure, transitioning it from a suburban 'bedroom community' into a regional hub for specialized healthcare.
Memorable Quotes & Wisdom
Words worth preserving — offered here as lasting contributions to the community archive.
"Growing up in a small town I learned that connections go beyond blood they're built through shared experiences friendships and the moments we celebrate together."
— Ryan Hardin
0:08
Reflects the core values of Lehi's transition from a small town to a growing community where newcomers and long-time residents find common ground.
Establishes the foundational philosophy of the podcast and the communal nature of small-town life where relationships are intentional.
"I very quickly was like wow this is so lonely with this little human and I complained to my mother and she very distinctly was like oh like you need to make your own Community yeah she's like it's not going to find you."
— Charlene Freestone
2:44
Serves as a call to action for Lehi residents to actively participate in creating the community they desire rather than waiting for it to appear.
Highlights the isolation often felt by young parents and the proactive mindset required to foster social infrastructure.
"That was the thing that kind of kickstarted that I was going to be growing a community here in Lehigh and that it would it would always circulate around parents."
— Charlene Freestone
3:45
Illustrates how local grassroots efforts, like baby-wearing groups, form the 'branches' of Lehi’s social fabric.
Marks the transition from a personal need for connection to a public mission of service and organization.
"For a lot of people I think reset their career... I had the realization that no one is ever going to bring their like small children to stores anymore... I folded super quickly... I realized that we were going to have to redo how we're building Community with Co."
— Charlene Freestone
5:01
Captures a specific historical moment in Lehi's economic history during the 2020 pandemic.
Shows the vulnerability of small businesses and the necessity of adaptability during global crises.
"I think they found me because I was very set on that I was going to be a corporate businesswoman... but in the small opportunities I was given... it just fell on me and it kept being a thing that was made clear that I needed to be a part of."
— Charlene Freestone
7:02
Encourages residents to find meaning in unexpected roles that serve the greater good of the family unit.
Discusses the concept of 'vocation'—how one’s career path often reveals itself through service rather than rigid planning.
"We always have our Mantra is that safe that they leave safer than they arrived like we we may not be able to do things perfectly we know everyone's circumstance and situation is different but we always want them safer."
— Charlene Freestone
15:54
Reflects a compassionate approach to public safety and support within the Lehi medical community.
Focuses on progress over perfection and the non-judgmental nature of community health work.
"I actually did my first day with Inner Mountain exactly 12 years later... I remember like looking up at out of the building be like I'm back but this time I'm helping people here."
— Charlene Freestone
13:38
Symbolizes the deep personal roots individuals have with local institutions like Primary Children's Hospital.
A powerful full-circle moment where a former patient's parent becomes the provider, showcasing the cyclical nature of community care.
"She said no don't sell yourself short you were problem solving and really working to empower this parent."
— Charlene Freestone (quoting a colleague)
21:38
Highlights the professional excellence and mentorship present in Lehi’s workforce.
Redefines technical work as an act of empowerment and emotional support for families in stress.
"Someone trying to call you out on it is not trying to judge you your parenting they they just might see an opportunity to help."
— Charlene Freestone
29:43
Promotes a 'good neighbor' policy within Lehi, essential for maintaining a tight-knit community feel during rapid growth.
Encourages a culture of humility and mutual aid, where safety advice is seen as kindness rather than criticism.
"The right car seat for your kid is the one that fits your child your vehicle and that you can install correctly every time."
— Charlene Freestone
31:40
Offers essential, life-saving advice to the many young families moving to and living in Lehi.
Provides a practical, egalitarian wisdom that prioritizes utility and safety over status symbols or high-cost items.
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Related Themes
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Profiles of the people who shaped local government, planning, and policy in Lehi — and what their stories reveal about what good leadership actually looks like at the community level.
Family Legacy
The stories of families who planted roots in Lehi across generations — the ones who built the traditions, the parks, the businesses, and the sense of belonging that others now enjoy.
Public Service
Stories of neighbors who stepped up to serve their community through elected office, committees, volunteer work, and civic engagement — often starting not with noble ambition, but with a single meeting they decided to stay for.
Community Resilience
How Lehi residents have navigated challenge, change, growth, and hardship — and emerged with optimism, connection, and a deeper appreciation for what they've built together.
Ways to Serve
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Volunteer with Alpine School District
Alpine School District
Mentor youth through the FFA program
Future Farmers of America (FFA)
Volunteer at Farmers’ Markets
Lehi Farmers’ Market
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Connected People, Places & Stories
Spouse
Husband of the guest and partner in their move to Lehi.
employer/mission
Charlene works there as a certified child passenger safety technician.
Residence
The primary setting for the guest's life, business, and community building efforts.
business location
The site of Charlene's original business, the Natural Parenting Boutique.
Catalyst
A significant event that forced the guest to change careers and business focus.
catalyst
The economic downturn forced Charlene to settle in Lehi and find creative ways to build a life.
Medical Facility
Provided critical medical services for the guest's son and served as a location for her later professional training.
personal philosophy
Charlene's mother advised her to create the community she couldn't find.
professional partner
Source of training and certification for child passenger safety technicians.
former ownership
A key part of Charlene's history as a community connector in Lehi.
volunteer affiliate
Organization where a community member volunteers to advocate for car safety.
Suggested Future Guests & Topics
An interview with the midwife who operated out of the old Lehi Hotel would provide a fascinating look at the history of birth and maternal health in the city. The technicians and leaders at the Utah County Health Department could offer a broader perspective on public health initiatives and how they have scaled with the population. A conversation with the management at the Larry H. Miller and Gail Miller Family Campus of Primary Children's Hospital would document the administrative and strategic vision for bringing world-class healthcare to Lehi. It would also be valuable to interview long-term business owners on Main Street who have witnessed the area's transformation over several decades to compare their experiences with Charlene’s newer entrepreneurial journey. Finally, reaching out to the firefighters Charlene mentioned who *do* hold safety certifications could reveal the intersection of emergency services and community education.
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AI Retrieval Notes
This episode provides a rich ethnographic look at the 'parenting culture' of Lehi during the 2010s and 2020s. It highlights the evolution of social support systems, from informal Facebook-based playgroups to formalized nonprofit chapters and eventually professional healthcare roles. The guest, Charlene Freestone, serves as a bridge between the 'Old Lehi' (Main Street small business culture) and the 'New Lehi' (high-tech healthcare and professional services). Key values extracted include the importance of proactive citizenship ('make your own community') and the ethical obligation to share specialized knowledge for the public good (child safety). The narrative also contains specific technical warnings about counterfeit safety products, which serves as a marker of the digital-age challenges facing modern suburban families. From a historical perspective, the transcript documents the literal movement of surgeons and services from Salt Lake City and Provo into Lehi, mirroring the population boom of the Silicon Slopes area. The 'dream job' narrative arc illustrates how personal family trauma (a child born with medical needs) can be transformed into a professional calling that serves the wider community.
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Chapter 1: Introduction to Roots and Branches of Lehi 0:00welcome to roots and branches of Lehi the podcast where we get to know the faces stories and lives that make up our community I'm Ryan Hardin and I started 0:088 secondsthis podcast as a way for us all to connect with the people we live alongside growing up in a small town I learned that connections go beyond blood 0:1515 secondsthey're built through shared experiences friendships and the moments we celebrate together each week we'll sit down with someone new from Lehi to share their 0:2424 secondsunique story their passions and what they love most about living here so whether you've been here for years or just arrived join us as we deepen Our 0:3333 secondsRoots and reach out to our branches one story at a time welcome uh Charlene Freestone so at you get to be here on Chapter 2: Meet Charlene Freestone 0:4141 secondsthe podcast Lehigh roots and branches so excited to have you excited and good yes you know our little Community podcast 0:4747 secondshere so you wear several hats one of which is is has to do with Primary Children's Hospital right tell us well 0:5555 secondstell us a little bit about yourself and I mean in your role there and and give us a little intro C I guess I work at The Inter Mountain Primary Children's Chapter 3: Charlene's Journey to Lehi 1:021 minute, 2 secondsHospital Larry H Miller and Gail Miller Family Campus that's located in Lehi y so it's been a fantastic opportunity for 1:101 minute, 10 secondsme but it is one of several things that I do I've lived in Lehi with my husband Greg Freestone since I graduated BYU 1:201 minute, 20 secondsin 2009 okay I am not from Utah County I grew up in a combination of Denver and 1:271 minute, 27 secondsCalifornia but with the recession at the time of my graduation it became pretty apparent that we were going to be here 1:371 minute, 37 secondsand we were just going to kind of scrape up what limited opportunities there were that year I had some opportunities that I'd hop to have after graduation just 1:451 minute, 45 secondscompletely dissolve with the recession and so I went from studying business management always knowing that I wanted to 1:531 minute, 53 secondspursue teaching adults corporate training was something I did for the university in their food services department and I knew that that was 2:022 minutes, 2 secondssomething I wanted to keep doing but it's something that's a very limited opportunity and that I would have to kind of find where that spot was so it 2:112 minutes, 11 secondswas something that I kind of had to wait for and it's been worth waiting for so I I have three children they are 14 12 and 2:182 minutes, 18 seconds8 we're a big adventure family we love the outdoors traveling we love doing all the things in Utah winter 2:262 minutes, 26 secondssummer and I yeah I do wear lots of hats one of the things that I would say kind of started my where I'm at now yeah Chapter 4: Building Community in Lehi 2:352 minutes, 35 secondsworking at Primary Children's Hospital is that I very quickly in having my children moving to Lehi from an 2:442 minutes, 44 secondsapartment complex when I was in my house I very quickly was like wow this is so lonely with this little human and I 2:512 minutes, 51 secondscomplained to my mother and she very distinctly was like oh like you need to make your own Community yeah she's like it's not going to find you yeah she's 3:003 minuteslike you have to make it and I really it's good advice she's a good lady inspired me to kind of create different 3:073 minutes, 7 secondscommunities and so I started with like a mom's play group I started with just setting up events on Facebook like I wanted to meet up with other moms and I 3:153 minutes, 15 secondsended up teaching them different things that I was good at or worked at and one of them was teaching people how to actually use baby carriers so I taught 3:223 minutes, 22 secondspeople how to use baby carriers and we ended up starting a formal nonprofit chapter of an international organization 3:293 minutes, 29 secondsW for baby wearing and so I ran that with a couple friends for a few years we ended up we have since passed it off with 3:373 minutes, 37 seconds2020 Co and all those changes to actually the wick and different so we we dissolved our lending library of baby 3:453 minutes, 45 secondscarriers and distributed them to the community but that was the thing that kind of kickstarted that I was going to be growing a community here in Lehigh 3:533 minutes, 53 secondsand that it would it would always circulate around parents but as my babies got bigger I kind of had this like where was like oh I it's not going 4:034 minutes, 3 secondsto be babies like how could I keep doing this yeah but when it was babies I started out my first kind of little Chapter 5: The Natural Parenting Boutique 4:094 minutes, 9 secondsformal business venture in Lehi was we started a natural parenting Boutique on Lehigh mainster actually in the old Lehi hotel right by the train tracks nice and 4:184 minutes, 18 secondswe rented from the Midwife that I think is still there now in some other businesses I mean where else can you have a baby buy stuff gems and I think 4:284 minutes, 28 secondsat one time you could rent wedding dresses is in the same building it was pretty impressive and so we started our shop there and we sold cloth diapers 4:354 minutes, 35 secondsbaby carriers but our biggest Focus was on parent education classes and trying to be a community meeting space we pretty quickly outgrew the space we had 4:444 minutes, 44 secondsthey needed it for some other purposes so we did move up to Sandy sadly it was going to be the best commute ever 3 minutes yeah that would have yes it was going to be so good that's my commute 4:524 minutes, 52 secondsright now that's your commute right now I'm so jealous but I was lucky I got to move my shop boot Baby Boutique up to San where it was up 5:015 minutes, 1 seconduntil April of 2020 So Co for a lot of people I think reset their career for me Chapter 6: Transition to Primary Children's Hospital 5:085 minutes, 8 secondsthe day of the Utah earthquake I had the realization that no one is ever going to bring their like small children to stores anymore like I was just very 5:165 minutes, 16 secondsaware that this if I kept this going I was just going to lose money sure and I folded super quickly I sold my share to 5:255 minutes, 25 secondsmy co-owners I was like I have no faith in this going forward sure luck so some of them have kept it going in different 5:325 minutes, 32 secondscapacities but that was my Just moment where I realized that we were going to have to redo how we're building Community with Co and so that's when my 5:415 minutes, 41 secondsnonprofit kind of fizzled out that's when I stopped working with my Boutique and so I ended up working at the my 5:485 minutes, 48 secondschildren's school and got really involved with as a teacher's aid there and got to see how how everyone kind of 5:565 minutes, 56 secondsbanded together to keep everything going during Co and that was really neat to be a part of and so I got to work in education so I did a little bit of 6:026 minutes, 2 secondsretail did a little bit of education and then I have now found my way back with working at Inter Mountain Primary 6:126 minutes, 12 secondsChildren's Hospital specifically as a child passenger safety technician okay okay and so well so okay that's perfect 6:206 minutes, 20 secondsso that gives us a little bit of background of maybe you know kind of how you got into that I guess yeah I skipped the final jump with my shop we were 6:286 minutes, 28 secondsgoing to sell car seats okay and so you needed someone that was certified in that capacity to legally sell car seats 6:376 minutes, 37 secondswith some of the higher-end companies sure it's not a requirement like Target or Walmart but some of the higher end companies want that education to be given as part of the purchase so I 6:466 minutes, 46 secondsvolunteered his tribute and I just absolutely loved the community of those community health workers gotcha and and 6:546 minutes, 54 secondsyou may have already answered this I guess but maybe with your mom but but how did you get involved in a career focusing on children and families and stuff like that especially with Primary 7:027 minutes, 2 secondsChildren's what what what got you you know where's the motivation come from I guess I think they found me because I 7:117 minutes, 11 secondswas very set on that I was going to be a corporate businesswoman I was just going to be with other adults and I do I do actually still do that I work as a 7:197 minutes, 19 secondsprivate contractor doing project management work for big tech companies and so I I'm still involved in that work but in the small opportunities I was 7:287 minutes, 28 secondsgiven from just people needing help feeling so overwhelmed in those moments of early parenting that they've they it 7:387 minutes, 38 secondsjust fell on me and it kept being a thing that was made clear that I needed to be a part of so and and how did you 7:467 minutes, 46 secondsget so so tell me tell me exactly what you do then with Primary Children's tell me what what is your role there I guess then right now yes so I am a as a child Chapter 7: Role at Primary Children's Hospital 7:547 minutes, 54 secondspassenger safety technician in a general capacity they might particip ipate in the biggest thing that you would say 8:028 minutes, 2 secondsthey're like primary job is is that you're going to provide one-on-one parent education for how the parent is 8:108 minutes, 10 secondsgoing to install the car seat in the vehicle and with that in hospital capacity we have a more diverse 8:188 minutes, 18 secondscomponent because daytoday a child passenger safety technician if they work at like the health department or if they 8:258 minutes, 25 secondswork at a fire station or I have a friend that works for the highway safety Department doing this they are just checking people's car seats they already 8:338 minutes, 33 secondsown or providing like seats that were purchased with grants to parents that need them whereas at the hospital we do 8:408 minutes, 40 secondsabsolutely do that okay and that's one of my favorite things I do there but additionally there is children that 8:488 minutes, 48 secondscannot be transported safely with the car seats that are just available commercially sure and so if you think of 8:578 minutes, 57 secondssome of the surgeries that like they may perform there if a child is getting a a cast like if they're having both hips operated on they are going to have 9:059 minutes, 5 secondsa cast that is from their armpits with maybe a bar between their legs and they're just not going to fit yeah or we might have children that have spine 9:139 minutes, 13 secondsabido where they have open incisions on their back and they may even need to be transported laying down face down actually like wow in just seats that you 9:229 minutes, 22 secondsmay have never seen that look like a giant basket that's attached to the card so that's a special certification in addition to being a child passenger 9:309 minutes, 30 secondssafety technician I'm actually doing the formal trading for it Friday W so everyone at the Lehi location of Primary 9:379 minutes, 37 secondsChildren's will then have that certification to work with families with special medical needs and transportation needs to help transport either kids home 9:469 minutes, 46 secondsfrom procedures and then the third thing we do there is work with parents that have kids that may have um behavioral 9:549 minutes, 54 secondsissues with transporting okay so if they have different challenges that make it so they can't sit still or might try to 10:0210 minutes, 2 secondsescape we would also work with those children as well now is this the dream job G Jan Marie had told me that you you landed your dream job is this is this it 10:1110 minutes, 11 secondstell me or tell me that story I guess with you know with Landing the dream job it is one of those that I would say it 10:1910 minutes, 19 secondsis absolutely in like a dream capacity okay for a hot I mean it's me I always love to be a little bit more in charge 10:2610 minutes, 26 secondsand so at Primary Children's Hospital in Lehigh right now I'm working as an on call child passenger safety technician so I'm working doing the things I love 10:3510 minutes, 35 secondswith people I love fantastic management so I would say it's the dream job if I got to do it all the time that would be that would be the true dream but it's 10:4210 minutes, 42 secondsfantastic to be with the crew that I work there they I had said that I was going to work in my same capacity 10:5010 minutes, 50 secondsactually quite a few years ago up at the Salt Lake Campus and at the primary children Salt Lake Campus I had applied 10:5810 minutes, 58 secondsfor a position and actually is one of the only jobs I've ever applied to to this day that I got I didn't get they came back to me and said after I 11:0611 minutes, 6 secondsinterviewed we didn't realize your outside the how far away you can be to work on call oh shoot and so they were 11:1311 minutes, 13 secondslike yeah we we can't have you but like if we ever open a second location you should apply again girl yes okay and so 11:2211 minutes, 22 secondsI had it in the back of my head and this this hospital has been announced for years yeah it's been something that I've 11:3111 minutes, 31 secondsreally just wanted and wished and waited for to come down here it's a tangent but I have a child that was born with needs 11:4011 minutes, 40 secondsthat required surgeries okay and at the time that would have only been done the time the child was born it was only done 11:4811 minutes, 48 secondsup in Salt Lake and they were actually over capacity in 2011 because it was the post recession baby boom that they actually 11:5611 minutes, 56 secondshad to move surgeons down to Utah Valley Hospital to do my son surgery there so they couldn't they couldn't even fit him 12:0312 minutes, 3 secondsat the hospital and back then one of the nurses that helped my son we went to take him home and he one of the things I 12:1212 minutes, 12 secondsdo day-to-day at the hospital is if a child with Like Oxygen issues is needing to be discharged the niku nurses will 12:2112 minutes, 21 secondsoversee a car seat test where they install them in their car seat they check their oxygen but if it's looking like they may not pass they'll bring us 12:2812 minutes, 28 secondsin to support them and troubleshoot things that might be affecting that and so my son actually needed to have that 12:3512 minutes, 35 secondshappen and we were really lucky that his nurse that he'd had was a child passenger safety technician okay so she 12:4312 minutes, 43 secondshad that additional training and that was long before my store or before I even knew it was a job and I did think it I thought it was something you had to 12:5112 minutes, 51 secondsbe maybe a nurse for at the time sure and I thought but that's not the case yeah and it is not the case it is a certification that you can get just on 12:5812 minutes, 58 secondsyour anyone that is passionate about working with uh parents children oftentimes underprivileged communities 13:0613 minutes, 6 secondsit's a certification that you can pay for on your own it's a 4-day training they host it about twice a year and it's a cool opportunity for anybody and it's 13:1413 minutes, 14 secondsa very welcoming Community they always want more volunteers to come and work at different events or checkpoints and so 13:2213 minutes, 22 secondsit's something that even if you necessarily couldn't find paid work in if you're passionate about working with parents and children they they'd love to 13:3013 minutes, 30 secondshave more so it's not something you need to start just because of a career init sure and so I actually did my first day 13:3813 minutes, 38 secondswith Inner Mountain exactly 12 years later and at Utah Valley Hospital okay to the day my son had been discharged 13:4713 minutes, 47 secondsfrom that first car seat test oh wow nice so I was looking at my inner Mountain badge yeah and I remember like 13:5613 minutes, 56 secondslooking up at out of the building be like I'm back but this time I'm helping people here that's awesome and I thought that when I was there there was a lady 14:0414 minutes, 4 secondsthat did parent volunteer coordination and I was like her job is 14:1114 minutes, 11 secondsso cool I want to do that someday and I've even run into this woman at the grocery store randomly really like different city a couple years later and 14:1914 minutes, 19 secondsI was like are you still doing that job and she's like yeah I haven't retired yet and I was like okay so I can't take your job yet she's like you may not not 14:2614 minutes, 26 secondsyet nope but but I've asked her yeah well that's that's good followed up on it well tell me so tell me tell me what some of the common challenges that Chapter 8: Challenges and Memorable Experiences 14:3414 minutes, 34 secondsparents face I guess with with new kids that that you guys kind of help you know facilitate or solve I guess for them 14:4114 minutes, 41 secondsyeah so we typically at primary Children Hospital in Lehi don't get the like newborn discharge as much because babies 14:5014 minutes, 50 secondsare not necessarily like born there they're transported there so we might do discharges with those parents but one of 14:5714 minutes, 57 secondsthe issues I think any parent parent being discharged with like your baby and your newborn is that a lot of parents don't know that every nurse that helps 15:0515 minutes, 5 secondsyou with a car seat like when you've had a newborn has that extra training so you may ask them I think I've asked questions when I had some my other kids 15:1315 minutes, 13 secondsand they actually legally can only pair it kind of like their little script so they may actually not know how car seats 15:2215 minutes, 22 secondswork Beyond how that newborn should look that very first time and so there is a lot of education that those parents may 15:3015 minutes, 30 secondsstill need yeah but in their minds they're like oh the nurse told me it looks good I'm done but children's safety unfortunately is not a oneandone 15:3715 minutes, 37 secondsthing yeah and so it's parents it's very important to know that there is more resources out there for them car seat 15:4615 minutes, 46 secondschecks at our hospital and at the different Health departments all over Utah are free okay and they love when you call they love when you make an 15:5415 minutes, 54 secondsappointment they are not there to judge how your child arrived we always have our Mantra is that safe that they leave 16:0316 minutes, 3 secondssafer than they arrived like we we may not be able to do things perfectly we know everyone's circumstance and situation is different but we always 16:1016 minutes, 10 secondswant them safer so how does how does that look so somebody calls you know their new their their kids now two three years old right you know so obviously 16:1916 minutes, 19 secondsyou know they they're a little bigger than they were when they were newborn right you know hey am I still doing this right what's so they just call and kind of walk us through that process what 16:2616 minutes, 26 secondsdoes that look like yeah so the hospital or the different Health departments if you call them you can be directed to a 16:3316 minutes, 33 secondschild passenger safety technician car seats like say I want to have someone do a car seat check that's kind of the big term that that parent is looking for and 16:4116 minutes, 41 secondsthen they'll ask you a couple questions they'll ask you the height weight ballpark sure for your child and their age they may ask you what seat they're 16:5016 minutes, 50 secondsriding in currently just so they're getting a mental picture they'll ask you what kind of car it is maybe what year just so that they can do a little bit of background information to make sure that 16:5816 minutes, 58 secondsthey know what kind of situation not every car as lots of parents may have learned is easy to pop a car seat into 17:0617 minutes, 6 secondsno no some are very difficult right yeah yeah some you might be fighting for your life yes yes out there I actually did my 17:1417 minutes, 14 secondscar seat training when it was the like second week of June in 2018 and it was like 104 and you learn 17:2217 minutes, 22 secondsoutside yeah some is in a classroom so we are installing car seats in cars when it's like 103 so I feel feel I feel for 17:3017 minutes, 30 secondsparents that are always fighting the good fight trying to make sure that everything looks appropriate well so any any particular experiences stand out to 17:3817 minutes, 38 secondsyou any memorable I mean you've been doing this for a little while any like oh hey you know I don't know any experiences from this you know that you want to share so I actually it goes back 17:4717 minutes, 47 secondsto the question like how I ended up at primaries I was working at an event in I 17:5317 minutes, 53 secondswant to say it was 20 the fall of 2021 where we do a child safety week in September and so there might be 18:0118 minutes, 1 seconddifferent checks around the different valleys it's just an it's a national like Child Safety Week sure so the different pass child passenger safety 18:0818 minutes, 8 secondstechnicians will do different checkpoints where people can just come and have their car seats checked out oft times they will have car seats that have 18:1718 minutes, 17 secondsbeen purchased by grants that are not income based so sometimes at those checks I do one in July as well that if you just come and like and need a new 18:2618 minutes, 26 secondsseat like we just give them away wow and so I think sometimes people get caught in that gap of like I don't necessarily 18:3318 minutes, 33 secondsqualify for maybe a government program that I get something from but there are lots of resources that we still want to make people aware of and so I was at that 18:4018 minutes, 40 secondscheckpoint and a family came that actually had the same minivan that I had had when I was doing an inhome daycare 18:4918 minutes, 49 secondsand I'd had to transport five kids that were all under eight oh wow I were taking my son to swim lessons and I'd be moving car seats around and I'd be like 18:5618 minutes, 56 secondsthis is rough sure but I it was such a hard car seat check because normally they try to keep one they call they also 19:0419 minutes, 4 secondscall a cpst it's probably a good acronym to start using the they they assigned two of us to the same car because it was 19:1219 minutes, 12 secondsjust such they had six children in this seven seater minivan yeah and I think 19:1919 minutes, 19 secondsthey arrived with five car seats okay and so they had two technicians working on it and actually five car seats is a 19:2619 minutes, 26 secondsbit of a stretch one of the children was on a wooden box that I think that had 19:3319 minutes, 33 secondsbeen secured to the vehicle if I distinctly remember and I do chuckle at it a bit but I also can at the same time hold space for that they were doing the 19:4119 minutes, 41 secondsbest they can sure they they thought they were boosting him up like I appreciate that they were trying yeah they also were trying to fit three car 19:4819 minutes, 48 secondsseats in the back row so close together minivan third rows are suspiciously tiny I agreed and they had Daisy chained 19:5919 minutes, 59 secondsthe lap extender belts that should only be used in a medical situation where you cannot fit your seat belt and it is like 20:0620 minutes, 6 secondsapproved and it's just a very small window of who needs them they had Daisy chained them through the outer car seats in towards the center one and then back 20:1420 minutes, 14 secondsout and buckled so there was a lot of Ingenuity that I could really appreciate sure they were doing their best with what they had my other the other 20:2220 minutes, 22 secondstechnician I worked painstakingly to get this family new seats get them all organized in the car we worked with the 20:3020 minutes, 30 secondsparent we got everyone in as best of a seat as we could we're about to shake hands send her on her away give her some education materials and she goes but 20:3820 minutes, 38 secondswhere should I put the newborn baby I'm pregnant with and we just stared at each other the other technician I went what do you mean she's like well I need to be 20:4520 minutes, 45 secondsable to transport this child in this car as well and in that kind of situation you are going to start needing to move 20:5320 minutes, 53 secondsmaybe a child that was younger than that 13 to the front seat yeah in a situation where you're going to do the best you can so we moved a kid up scooted the 21:0121 minutes, 1 secondseat back away from the airbag and proceeded to have to rearrange every single child in the car there was no car 21:0821 minutes, 8 secondsseat in this minivan that sadly worked just anywhere or fit the kid situation 21:1421 minutes, 14 secondsso we had to like redo the seat reg everything start completely from scratch we were at least like an hour and 20 minutes into this installing car seats 21:2221 minutes, 22 secondslike physical labor with this woman sure and totally had to start over and the woman I was working with was like wow 21:2921 minutes, 29 secondsyou really know your stuff yeah and I was like unfortunately because I own this vehicle so you know exactly where like you can give me credit as in my job 21:3821 minutes, 38 secondsCy for sure and she said no don't sell yourself short you were problem solving and really working to empower this parent I would love to have you work 21:4621 minutes, 46 secondswith me up at the Primary Children's Hospital in Salt Lake and I was like oh I applied for that they didn't want me and she's like I don't think that's true 21:5521 minutes, 55 secondsshe goes I'm in charge now such and such lady retired and and now we want you we would love to have you and I was like no I'm still physically too far away so I 22:0222 minutes, 2 secondscan't work with you right now she goes well we're going to have that Lehi one when we have Lehigh it was always this carrot dangled yeah yeah so even years in advance she was like you should you 22:1122 minutes, 11 secondsreally need to work with me yeah up at the hospital and so this Christmas my 22:1722 minutes, 17 secondsChristmas card from her said here's to more years working with Dodge 22:2522 minutes, 25 secondsCaravans together I'm so glad she said yes it's awesome so little little did you know you were doing a job interview at that time J and she got to see me in 22:3522 minutes, 35 secondsaction there and it has been a funny joke that that exact year car layout weird situation has popped up when I am 22:4222 minutes, 42 secondsworking more than anyone else and so I'm I'm just where I need to be fighting the good fight in a in a car that isn't laid 22:4922 minutes, 49 secondsout as perfectly as I would have loved for car seats who knew a minivan minivans some of them are super easy for car seats and others are sometimes the 22:5722 minutes, 57 secondshardest vehicle I working yeah wow well so so you mentioned a couple resources already you know the the how Chapter 9: Resources for Parents 23:0523 minutes, 5 secondspeople sometimes can get free car seats do car seat checks different things like that tell me what other resources are available for for new parents that that 23:1223 minutes, 12 secondswe haven't talked about yet I guess that you know things that they would want to know any other resources available for not just new parents but I think all 23:2023 minutes, 20 secondsparents wanting to really verse themsel in safety in Mountain's website is a great resource we do have the car seat 23:2723 minutes, 27 secondssafety and they have resources on videos of like what seat might be a good seat for your child okay and so I I mentioned 23:3623 minutes, 36 secondsI have to do my list in my head I know I mentioned the so we have you health departments are great y we have I did 23:4323 minutes, 43 secondssay fire stations but I think I would like to use the moment to just remind everyone historically that was something 23:5123 minutes, 51 secondsthat people would talk to Firefighters about I don't actually know how it got started but very few fire stations in 23:5823 minutes, 58 secondsour state actually employ a child passenger safety technician I do however work with some fantastic firefighters 24:0524 minutes, 5 secondsthat do have that certification but but the V majority not so much just because a firefighter looked at your child's car seat means absolutely nothing for okay 24:1424 minutes, 14 secondsand the same with police officers I work with some fantastic ones some really should not be commenting on something outside their wheelhouse sure sure and 24:2324 minutes, 23 secondshave I have heard them give terrible advice sure so again so the so the the advice then is hey go to the hospital right you know go go to especially now 24:3024 minutes, 30 secondsPrimary Children's here in Utah County it's a great place to go and all of the health departments in Utah County okay all the he Department all of the health 24:3724 minutes, 37 secondsdepartments in Utah County have either they have a child passenger safety technician or have the resources to send you one okay so I've gone down and 24:4624 minutes, 46 secondsworked doing events with Pac I've done them in Provo and so if you're not even just right here in Lehi yeah there's 24:5424 minutes, 54 secondsgreat options in the in multiple areas and then of course at the Salt Lake 25:0125 minutes, 1 secondPrimary Children's Hospital there's resources there 9 to Monday through Friday Lehi is just 11: to 4 Monday through Friday but we those are the 25:1025 minutes, 10 secondsbiggest safety resources for sure in the general the general area and the cool thing is both Hospitals now can do 25:1725 minutes, 17 secondsvirtual car seat checks oh really so I think that's a resource that's really underrated and so that's still a free check good they we all have our 25:2625 minutes, 26 secondssmartphones they set it up and and I think that's actually a really good way sometimes to do it because it forces you as the parent to be like it's literally 25:3525 minutes, 35 secondsme yeah I have to touch this like yeah so they're hear but they're hearing with someone that's helping them troubleshoot 25:4225 minutes, 42 secondsbecause you can pick up a manual for a car seat yeah of course and be like I is I mean I as someone who specializes it have looked at certain brands of 25:5025 minutes, 50 secondslabeling and been like what on Earth are they trying to say I know my my like what what on Earth do they want me to do with this information some it sounds 25:5825 minutes, 58 secondsoutright like conflicting yeah my wife is talking about she would like to rewrite basically instruction manuals for not just car seats but pretty much 26:0626 minutes, 6 secondseverything where she's like who writes these things you know so so I'm with you I I hear that that's I think that's why it would be nice to have somebody help 26:1426 minutes, 14 secondswalk him through and I think the other part of that that's important is because I know sometimes asking for help especially on things where a parent 26:2126 minutes, 21 secondscould quote unquote get in trouble that's why I like that you started with saying hey you know we're not judging you this isn't like a like Hey we're here to help you you don't it's not like 26:3026 minutes, 30 secondsuh I mean sure you could be doing it wrong but you don't get in trouble for it I guess and I think that's important cuz sometimes people are afraid to ask for help cuz they don't want to draw attention to the fact that they're using 26:3826 minutes, 38 secondsa wooden box you know to do it and you're like hey you know that's fine I get what you're doing let's try this or let's try that and so I like that you Chapter 10: Navigating Parenting Advice 26:4626 minutes, 46 secondspoint that out because I think sometimes people fear those things because they don't want to get in trouble right absolutely they I as a parent yeah you 26:5626 minutes, 56 secondsjust don't want to be called out of and that's a hard thing even amongst your friends you may see that someone is doing something maybe incorrect or safe 27:0427 minutes, 4 secondswith their children you know it's not your place it's kind of a hard thing to be like oh you're doing it wrong but a better option could be hey did you know 27:1327 minutes, 13 secondsabout this resource I had them check my car seat it was super cool not like hey yours is wrong just like I did this cool 27:2027 minutes, 20 secondsthing and it was so nice they showed me how to put it in easier faster it was great you should totally go too that way you're not the bad guy right I'll be the 27:2727 minutes, 27 secondsbad guy you can you can point that's I love that advice that's great advice that way you can still maintain friendship so I have only one Chapter 11: Car Seat Safety Tips 27:3527 minutes, 35 secondstime very much just had the impression that I should say something to someone out in public I was next to a mom at a gym where we go to the same class 27:4427 minutes, 44 secondstogether I did not know her personally and I looked over and this is a really common mistake that I see is people will 27:5127 minutes, 51 secondsswitch their kid from rear facing when they're younger and they'll go to take that same convertible car seat and they'll flip it so the child can forward 27:5927 minutes, 59 secondsbut when you do that in any car seat you have to move how the seat is attached to the vehicle okay and so just because it 28:0628 minutes, 6 secondswas seat belted or using those lower anchors through one belt path to be rear facing they on every single car seat have to be switched which way they're 28:1428 minutes, 14 secondsattached to be forward facing and so unless they're the new super cool rotating ones but that's a tangent but I wasn't that fancy back in the day but 28:2328 minutes, 23 secondsthe she had it installed with the rear facing lower anchors through the lower facing like through the like lower belt 28:3028 minutes, 30 secondspath but had the seat forward facing so I kind of could look at it from very far away and be like oh that's not that's 28:3828 minutes, 38 secondsnot quite right and the concern about how that is installed is that in a car accident that would cause a lot of 28:4528 minutes, 45 secondsforces to flip the seat forward because if it's not being held back against the seat like you think about your backside pressing against into your chair it 28:5428 minutes, 54 secondscan't get any of that force it would just flip forward okay and and I knew that she was pretty chill and cool fre in class and I was like hey I just noticed like 29:0229 minutes, 2 secondsyour this part is like buckled into the wrong spot I'd love to help you with it if you just if you didn't know I know sometimes when you're switching stuff 29:0929 minutes, 9 secondsaround that can happen and she was like oh my gosh I had no idea thank you for telling me and she was so great about it 29:1729 minutes, 17 secondsand we got it switched done correctly and the first thing she did in the class was she told her other friend and was like I had my kid in wrong like it was 29:2629 minutes, 26 secondssuper unsafe and she totally helped me fix it was super chill and cool about it and so I love that she recognized my 29:3429 minutes, 34 secondsheart on it and she passed along the good word of like hey it's so easy to make a simple mistake when you're doing 29:4329 minutes, 43 secondsthings quickly someone trying to call you out on it is not trying to judge you your parenting they they just might see an opportunity to help yeah yeah CU 29:5129 minutes, 51 secondsthat's good with so many things that that's and and that yes that's exactly it that's good advice for probably everything we could all be a little more humble you know in some of those things 30:0030 minuteswhich it's hard I mean it's you know cuz we all want to be nobody wants to be called out you know so that is harder and so but good job it sounds like you handled that that situation perfectly it 30:0930 minutes, 9 secondssounds like she did too actually as far as you know she did great yeah that's awesome she did great and it's something that we very much want to make sure our 30:1630 minutes, 16 secondsprofession like I said that we are we are not here to judge and it was a situation where it was appropriate for me to talk to her being a general 30:2430 minutes, 24 secondsacquaintance with the the seats and making those mistakes the the biggest thing I see people do 30:3230 minutes, 32 secondsday-to-day is that they'll move car seats from car to car and it seems like something like oh caregiver has it grandma has them this the more times 30:4130 minutes, 41 secondswe're moving a car seat or that we're doing anything in a hurry in life really the more mistakes we make just from our 30:4930 minutes, 49 secondslike brain not being all the way there and so if it's at all possible I always want to like if people are financially able to do so I love to recommend people 30:5830 minutes, 58 secondsthat one of the best things they can do is own a seat for more than one vehicle it's such a benefit to have one in each 31:0731 minutes, 7 secondscaregiver's car sometimes the Temptation I think is to buy your kid the most expensive or the fanciest thing sure you 31:1531 minutes, 15 secondswant to have all the bells and whistles but often times it may be a better option to maybe have a variety and all 31:2331 minutes, 23 secondscar seats in the United States are required to pass the same game safety testing and so I've had people be like 31:3231 minutes, 32 secondsoh well I didn't want to get my kid one of those car seats sure and so I really want to always spread the word to people that the right car seat for your kid is 31:4031 minutes, 40 secondsthe one that fits your child your vehicle and that you can install correctly every time and if it doesn't meet those three things then I don't 31:4831 minutes, 48 secondscare if it's $450 I think I saw one recently was like 650 actually yeah wow or 31:5431 minutes, 54 seconds$60 I don't cuz they all St they going to you might and like we know with our clothing too like you might have different features We Love sometimes 32:0332 minutes, 3 secondsdifferent features and if those features make you use it correctly we love that sure and the although when I do say that 32:1132 minutes, 11 secondsall the seats pass the United States car seats that have passed the same testing that is seats that are sold by a 32:1932 minutes, 19 secondsauthorized retailer so if they're being sold in person at your target your Walmart your Children's Boutiques okay Chapter 12: Counterfeit Car Seats Warning 32:2832 minutes, 28 secondsfortunately and this is a big thing I've been involved with recently with the is there are now counterfeit car seats oh really and they're being sold very 32:3632 minutes, 36 secondseasily because we get thirdparty sellers on Amazon so if you are purchasing online it needs to be from that manufacturer or from a manufactur or or 32:4532 minutes, 45 secondsfrom an authorized retailer there are retailers that do occasionally sell through Amazon that also maybe have their own authorized online boutique or 32:5332 minutes, 53 secondsstore somewhere else and then are selling on Amazon but if it's not in those specific ifications we we should 32:5932 minutes, 59 secondsbe shopping smart and the so we're finding more and more counterfeit car seats at the hospital and at Community 33:0833 minutes, 8 secondschecks I've seen some out in the community other things to look for is that they have I always tell people when something seems too good to be true 33:1633 minutes, 16 secondsprobably is the prices tend to be cheaper the one that's being counterfeited most commonly is a car seat that is $600 oh wow and so people 33:2533 minutes, 25 secondsare like oh I got a good deal it was only they're paying 300 plus for the counterfeits like it's still wild and 33:3333 minutes, 33 secondsthey don't have the labeling that says they've passed the testing they don't say the height and weight and all the specifications the kids should have so 33:4133 minutes, 41 secondswe're looking for consistent labeling we want to make sure we purchased it from somewhere that's okay we want to make sure that it looks like a United States 33:5033 minutes, 50 secondscar seat we want to make sure it has all the pieces that a United States car seat should have and so it's so there's there's a risk then buying those 33:5833 minutes, 58 secondscounterfeits you're saying it it may not work right because it's not actually passing these tests and so which is the benefit of these tests is to secure us 34:0534 minutes, 5 secondsand you know help us and stuff like that but yeah it was on the news recently they showed some of the clips from the 34:1334 minutes, 13 secondscrash testing of the counterfeit car seats and a seat will move in a crash we 34:2134 minutes, 21 secondsexpect them to move which is actually really shocking to people you think I God it's so tight it's not going to move they're going to move with crash forces but the idea is that it is moving in a 34:2934 minutes, 29 secondsway that is limiting injury or reducing injury sure and or like softening crash 34:3634 minutes, 36 secondsforces all those things these seats however are shattering just like plastic exploding 34:4534 minutes, 45 secondswow and so I've had I did actually have someone openly tell me that they got theirs they're like oh I just think it's 34:5234 minutes, 52 secondsa generic and I was like oh generic and counterfeit are not necessarily the same thing my Kirkland brand pants are a 35:0135 minutes, 1 secondgeneric sure this car seat is a safety hazard yes and is not going to keep your child safe not just maybe not even keep 35:1135 minutes, 11 secondsthem safe may even cause additional harm and they were like what like but why are they allowed to be sold and they're 35:1835 minutes, 18 secondstechnically not but eBay and Amazon cannot ban Sellers as quickly as they 35:2535 minutes, 25 secondsjust make new yeah new account make new accounts I have heard that on other things not necessarily with car seats but I have heard that that's a problem 35:3335 minutes, 33 secondswith some other things you know some things that at Walmart at Target wouldn't sell but Amazon can or at least people on Amazon can right you know that 35:4135 minutes, 41 secondsare maybe yeah so that's okay that's important to know so that's a good that's important to know yeah there was there was one exception I guess recently 35:4835 minutes, 48 secondsto an in-person and it was Walmart did get a shipment of some counterfeit booster car seats interesting and 35:5835 minutes, 58 secondsbecause it was a shipment that arrived to their store I mean most people that are unpacking stuff would be like oh okay I guess it's okay slap it on the shelf so sadly had to really encourage 36:0736 minutes, 7 secondspeople again to be like we're looking for labeling labeling that is consistent with saying that it's meeting the federal motor like highway safety 36:1636 minutes, 16 secondsstandards okay we were wanting to make sure that it says where it was created we want to see what is that street that it was produced on we want to see when 36:2536 minutes, 25 secondsit was made and all of those things like the model number we we need it to look we need it to have all those legit 36:3136 minutes, 31 secondsthings y y okay well so shifting gears a little bit tell me you know how do you see your role changing in the future any Chapter 13: Future of Child Passenger Safety 36:3836 minutes, 38 secondsany initiatives or anything you know you know possibly changing in this this area you know in the future and stuff like that or how do you see your role 36:4636 minutes, 46 secondschanging or will it change I don't know how it would change over the future like I said I work as a so the term is PRN 36:5436 minutes, 54 secondsbut it it's Latin for a term of on call yeah so I would love the opportunity to do it more readily I think it would be 37:0137 minutes, 1 secondfantastic if child passenger safety was something that was available maybe with longer hours there I would love to I would always love to 37:1037 minutes, 10 secondswork more at doing what I love so I don't necessarily think that the capacity would change in any way that I 37:1837 minutes, 18 secondscould foresee but I would always be excited about it becoming something that's sure that's bigger okay any I Chapter 14: Rewards and Challenges of the Job 37:2737 minutes, 27 secondsmean tell me about some of the biggest you know rewards of your job slash biggest challenges of your job right 37:3337 minutes, 33 secondsnow the biggest rewards of the job is absolutely the final send off with 37:4137 minutes, 41 secondsparents or caregivers when they thank you for helping them keep that child safe there is nothing better than the 37:4837 minutes, 48 secondsrelief in their eyes to like know that they get that satisfaction like they're do there's so many things as a parent 37:5537 minutes, 55 secondsthat you hope you're doing the right there might be some sort of like Benchmark later on but this is such a good one where they can install that 38:0438 minutes, 4 secondsseat put that child in it or teach that older child what they're doing have a professional watch it happen and say 38:1138 minutes, 11 secondslike no you guys are doing a great job yeah look at that this is helping keep them safe and just that relief in their eyes of like okay on our little 38:1938 minutes, 19 secondsparenting checklist look at this thing we're doing right like it like it tell me you know if somebody wanted to follow in your footsteps you know do this same 38:2838 minutes, 28 secondskind of thing tell me what advice you would give them yeah I actually had this conversation with a friend the other day she works in the tech industry but Chapter 15: Volunteering in Child Passenger Safety 38:3638 minutes, 36 secondsformerly worked in education okay and she was telling me how she missed working with children and so I actually 38:4238 minutes, 42 secondstold her that she should look up the Safe Kids website and look for that 38:4938 minutes, 49 secondschild passenger safety training course because anyone can take it although you can be affiliated with an organization 38:5638 minutes, 56 secondsor job you AB absolutely can go pay for that training it is not inexpensive but I don't think necessarily it's overly 39:0439 minutes, 4 secondsexpensive for the amount of training you're getting like I think I was even fed all my meals for the 3 days and at the time I took it it was around 39:1339 minutes, 13 seconds$300 and there is ongoing dues and continuing education courses you do take okay but there are also grants and 39:2339 minutes, 23 secondsdifferent ways to get that paid for for people that may not necessarily be doing it for a job but don't have the money to 39:3039 minutes, 30 secondskeep funding it so I know people that do it exclusively as a volunteer but they are using grants and different things to 39:3739 minutes, 37 secondsget those trainings paid for they're losing money kind of thing yeah they're not losing money yes exactly okay um because because as far as hours per week I mean you know what's the time 39:4639 minutes, 46 secondscommitment on something like this you know if you were doing it just on a strictly volunteer basis i' say your your opportunities would probably be on 39:5339 minutes, 53 secondsan actually bonly basis okay I typically get invited to do community events which are ones that I would have done before I 40:0140 minutes, 1 secondhad a job and they usually pop up about every other month if I and they're usually restricted to like evenings 40:0940 minutes, 9 secondsafter people get off work or Saturday Okay so very something that you could fit in when you're working around a 40:1640 minutes, 16 secondsdifferent N9 to-5 okay so yeah not a huge time commitment and going back to your mom's comment helping create your community right you know giving you you 40:2440 minutes, 24 secondsknow a little Outlet maybe if you're you know stay at home mom and you want to have something else to do I guess right you know or anybody really but I guess you know just given more outlets right 40:3340 minutes, 33 secondsmore more opportunities to to volunteer and do stuff or work or do you know yeah actually the the one of the co-workers I 40:4240 minutes, 42 secondshave that I work with he only does it one day a week okay and I asked him how he got into it and he was a stay-at-home 40:4940 minutes, 49 secondsdad that was getting lonely was a stay-at home dad his wife actually works in the hospital Hospital management and 40:5840 minutes, 58 secondsso he was staying home with their two kids and so he was lacking a community and so she actually recommended it to him and he has been phenomenal okay 41:0741 minutes, 7 secondsthat's awesome and so I have a brother that's actually interested as well because at his 9 to5 he he's doing one 41:1441 minutes, 14 secondsjob but he's also always had a passion for teaching and working with children and so he's looking into it because he wants that additional community and that 41:2241 minutes, 22 secondsopportunity but so it's a way to kind of add something maybe you don't get in your other your I sometimes call like my grown-up job or my other job I have yeah 41:3041 minutes, 30 secondsmy non-p passion job well I like that you mentioned that because yeah it so so obviously it's not just for one gender you're saying hey this this is for every anybody that really wants to do this 41:3841 minutes, 38 secondsright I like that absolutely we one of the most influential people we have got involved in his 50s after losing his 41:4741 minutes, 47 secondsdaughter in a car accident oh wow sure he was really grieving and he was trying to figure out a way that he could use 41:5541 minutes, 55 secondsthat grief constructively and so so he started working as a volunteer for Zero fatalities a nonprofit organization to 42:0442 minutes, 4 secondshelp adults be safe in the car as well and he now is a child passenger safety technician and so yeah any stage of life 42:1242 minutes, 12 secondstoo yeah we absolutely welcome that diverse experience because I think too when you're working with helping other 42:1942 minutes, 19 secondspeople it's nice to have that additional way that you could maybe be able to relate to them and with him especially we love I think he's trilingual so it's 42:2742 minutes, 27 secondsjust an absolute asset for to have that additional communication I say that the hardest part of my job and where I fail 42:3642 minutes, 36 secondsthe most is I am not bilingual and I desperately wish I was because I think every time I work with a translator I 42:4342 minutes, 43 secondsknow that I'm losing part of that interaction of course you are yeah yeah that makes sense tell me you know in Chapter 16: Personal Parenting Insights 42:5142 minutes, 51 secondswhat ways has working at Primary Children's helped your your own parenting I guess you know some of the things that you've learned from from 42:5842 minutes, 58 secondsworking with different families helping different people how is that translated into you as a better parent I guess oh I don't know if I don't know if it's made 43:0543 minutes, 5 secondsme a better parent yet I actually I actually was going to work more at the hospital and was struggling to 43:1443 minutes, 14 secondscoordinate child care for older kids in the summer yeah it is a huge issue and a a really it's something our community 43:2243 minutes, 22 secondsneeds to work on truly that there is not good opportunities for older children that not necess that maybe aged out of daycare but don't necessarily want to be 43:3043 minutes, 30 secondshome alone and so I actually had to choose am I going to work there multiple days or more limited and I had to ultimately choose that I needed to be 43:3743 minutes, 37 secondsmore limited so that I could take care of them so I don't know if I if it's made me better but it absolutely made me have to evaluate like who or what's 43:4743 minutes, 47 secondsgoing to what's going to happen and I work on call now so for me it may be something that when my kids leave for school in the morning my daughter asked 43:5543 minutes, 55 secondsme oh will you be home after school and I'll be like probably and then maybe not maybe I get called to the hospital and 44:0344 minutes, 3 secondsI'm and I'm there and so I think it's been a big growth opportunity for them they're old enough to be home alone yeah and it's been a good growth opportunity 44:1044 minutes, 10 secondsfor them to take care of each other and communicate with me communicate with other people and neighbors and they've I 44:1844 minutes, 18 secondsthink truly now they're excited yeah oh look mom's gone what do we should we call yeah is it a party or the cool snacks yeah yeah let's get out the stuff 44:2644 minutes, 26 secondsthat she hid yeah I it is also working with especially I guess when I work at the hospital with children that have 44:3444 minutes, 34 secondsmore complex medical needs I think that just always gives you that extra moment to be like this is a hard thing I'm 44:4144 minutes, 41 secondsdoing now yeah but this could also be a lot harder yes yes yeah when I had my son years ago he did have his complex 44:5044 minutes, 50 secondsmedical needs M but we had taken him up to Salt Lake for some additional care and just within minute 44:5844 minutes, 58 secondsof just being in a busier hospital setting up there we went you know we could have a lot of additional challenges too yeah it was a very 45:0645 minutes, 6 secondshumbling experience to be around such complex medical needs and I'm never someone that is going to pity another because that's such a 45:1545 minutes, 15 secondsdisservice to people in the situations they are because no one's no one's a martyr they we are all just taking care of the children we have as best as we 45:2445 minutes, 24 secondscan and but it does at the same time also every time you see someone in a different circumstance you're going to 45:3045 minutes, 30 secondsgo oh I I appreciate what mine is and so I love that it reminds me of just what 45:3845 minutes, 38 secondsgreat privileges I have yeah well I think that's one of the benefits of serving in any capacity right is always going to be that right you get to see 45:4545 minutes, 45 secondsother families and how they're acting and and yeah you're grateful for your own problems per se right Charlene this has been great this is great to learn Chapter 17: Final Thoughts and Resources 45:5445 minutes, 54 secondsabout some of the resources that people have available to them here especially now closer for us that live here in Lehigh anything we didn't cover anything 46:0146 minutes, 1 secondelse that you wanted to to hit on you know I think this has been a good comprehensive thing but anything else that we didn't put on I have a super 46:0946 minutes, 9 secondsquick soap box that I love to share when it comes to child passenger safety we do a disservice to our children when we think 46:1746 minutes, 17 secondsof car seats or safe travel in the car as just something for newborns infants when I was doing some ongoing ongoing 46:2546 minutes, 25 secondstraining recently they highlighted that currently the group that is at greatest risk for injury in a car accident is 46:3246 minutes, 32 secondsactually 8 to 12 okay because they are a group that in our minds were like oh they're not fitting their harness car 46:4046 minutes, 40 secondsseats they must be fine they must be good to go and so I always want to stress to people that we need to make sure that like I said with the car seat fitting the car in the child we want to 46:4846 minutes, 48 secondsmake sure that we don't jump to to get our kid to the next like kind of 46:5646 minutes, 56 secondsMilestone of child safety I think people get excited like oh it's so exciting like I can I can forward face them now or I can get them out of this harness 47:0447 minutes, 4 secondsand into a booster seat we don't necessarily in other capacity celebrate 47:1047 minutes, 10 secondsour kids moving to something that like oh like we're not going to be so excited like I mean they don't legally have to 47:1947 minutes, 19 secondswear a helmet at this activity now or like legally half to on like we we want them to be as safe as they can be and so 47:2647 minutes, 26 secondsjust because your child isn't legally required when they're like that 8 n years old in Utah I believe the law to 47:3447 minutes, 34 secondsbe in a car seat if they don't fit that car correctly to to really kind of examine what your hang-up is on why you 47:4247 minutes, 42 secondsthink that kid can't sit in a booster seat a lot of children will pop in my car that are as young as five and they're like oh my parents don't make me 47:5047 minutes, 50 secondssit in a car seat and I'm like I am not going to get into it with you about how your parent does things that's you guys work that out out but in my car I need 47:5847 minutes, 58 secondsto transport people in the way that I know is safe so I've got some options for us and we are going to sit in those safe options and so I just always want 48:0648 minutes, 6 secondsto encourage people to re-evaluate their idea of when we might necessarily be done with car seats I know it's so 48:1348 minutes, 13 secondsexciting to Chuck the final one in the garbage and just be like we did it sweet we're done but we have an opportunity to 48:2248 minutes, 22 secondskeep those slightly older kids safe and let's take that opportunity and maybe then speak to that just for just for a 48:2948 minutes, 29 secondssecond here but so you know you said 8 to 12 that's the most so once they're you know out of a car seat out of a booster seat or well I guess the 48:3748 minutes, 37 secondsquestion is what what criteria you say fit right so tell me tell me what that means I guess tell me like if somebody like how do I know no more booster seat 48:4648 minutes, 46 secondsno more you know car seat how do I know we do we actually have a test for it and it's an easy thing you can Google because every time I'm put on the spot I 48:5448 minutes, 54 secondssay I can say all five and then I usually like stumble on one of them so you're looking for the five-step test for looking to see if your kid can 49:0249 minutes, 2 secondsgraduate out of a car seat and I mean you and I are sitting in chairs if you you're thinking about how you fit in a chair although what's hilarious is I do 49:1149 minutes, 11 secondsnot fit in this chair so you want to make sure that they can have that soft Bend in the knees okay they're not a lot of kids will try to like stick their 49:1949 minutes, 19 secondslegs out straight to get their butt all the way back and be like look yeah I fit the back and you're like well your feet now don't touch the floor so we need their feet on the floor of the car we 49:2849 minutes, 28 secondsneed to have their knees have an actual natural Bend but at the same time we want to make sure that their backside is making full contact with that seat okay 49:3749 minutes, 37 secondsand that's we'll get to where they might hit one of them but they might be fudging another and then we want to make sure that the belt is off their neck and 49:4449 minutes, 44 secondswe want to make sure that the lower part of the seat belt is hitting on that your actual pelvis one of the things that happens when a kid isn't big enough for 49:5249 minutes, 52 secondsa full seat belt is that the belt will go up on their soft tissue of their abdomen and just from the basic physics of that that is where you're going to get 50:0050 minutesinjuries if you have a belt on their neck if you have a belt across their belly you're going to get increased risk of injuries from that and so when a 50:0750 minutes, 7 secondschild is making that or smaller adult is making that full contact with as much as 50:1550 minutes, 15 secondsthey can that car is going to they are going to be safer in that vehicle I always tell parents there is no 100% 50:2450 minutes, 24 secondsguarantee of safety in any situation sadly there are absolutely still car accidents that will not be survivable but as with all activities that I do 50:3350 minutes, 33 secondswith my kids I say we do dangerous things safely we're still going to go do those fun things sure we're still going to go snowboarding we're still going to go skiing but we're going to wear 50:4150 minutes, 41 secondshelmets we're going to go drive our cars which cars are inherently a huge opportunity that we are saying we're not 50:4850 minutes, 48 secondsas safe as we could be but we're going to put those seat bels on and we're going to follow as many ruls as we can and then we're just going to mitigate 50:5550 minutes, 55 secondsthat risk so we're making sure those kids have mitigated as many risks as we can and even if they may be not the same 51:0351 minutes, 3 secondsas their friend that doesn't have to yeah yeah no thank you Charlene and I appreciate that I think that's again a lot of good information help a lot of 51:1151 minutes, 11 secondsparents out there that have kids young kids older kids kind of know what to do and and what resour resources are available for them so thank you thanks 51:1951 minutes, 19 secondsfor coming on awesome thanks for having me thank you for joining us on roots and branches of Lehigh I hope today's story helped you feel a little more connected 51:2651 minutes, 26 secondsto the people who make up our community remember every person here has a unique story and together we're what makes Lehi feel like home if you know someone who 51:3551 minutes, 35 secondswould be a great fit for this podcast please fill out the form in the show notes so we can reach out and 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